Jacob I Loved & Esau I Hated....In The Womb? Not Exactly....

Malachi 1:1-3 The burden of the word of the Lord to Israel by Malachi.  "I have loved you, saith the Lord.  Yet ye say, 'Wherein hast Thou loved us?'  Was not Esau Jacob's brother?  Saith the Lord: yet I loved Jacob, And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Romans 9:13 As it is written, "Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."

These Scriptures are not about God hating an embryo.  God despised Esau for who he was and what he did in the 1st earth age.  If Esau had changed in the 2nd earth age, he could have changed God's feelings about him surely.  Judgment is with God and God alone so only He can determine if the changes in the 2nd earth age and those potentially to come in the Millennium will add him favor on Judgment Day.  [more on the Millennium & Judgment Day forthcoming]

Hebrews 12:16-17 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.  For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

Spiritual & Flesh Bodies

All souls were created in the 1st earth age and we all resided in our spiritual bodies there.  The spiritual body is in a different dimension than these flesh bodies, but they are similar and represent us as we are in these flesh bodies.  While there is no gender in Heaven, our very essence follows us in either dimension.  Our souls are our "self" and our spirit is the intellect of our souls.

Genesis 1:26-27 And God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."  So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

The "US" were God's children (us) in our spiritual bodies with Him in heaven.  God created all souls in that 1st earth age.  We are created in our very images of our spiritual bodies just as Christ is God with us in the flesh on earth, we are our spiritual bodies here in the flesh on earth.  [For simplicity I am only addressing this aspect of spiritual bodies/flesh bodies in this post....soon I will explain the difference in Adam on the 8th day and other man on the 6th day.]

I Corinthians 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body.  There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Ecclesiastes 12:6-7 Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.  Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God Who gave it.

Once we die in these flesh bodies, we instantly return to God in our spiritual bodies.  These flesh bodies are where our souls reside until the flesh dies and then our soul resides in our spiritual bodies in that wonderful dimension with God.  This is why God would say in I Corinthians 15:50 that while in the flesh we cannot see God as He is in a different dimension.

II Corinthians 5:6-8 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that , whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:  (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)  We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

So once we die in the flesh we are in our spiritual bodies in Heaven.  But wait, Judgment Day hasn't yet occurred....where is everyone again?  There is a gulf dividing those with God and those away from God.  This isn't "purgatory" or hell as such, but a simple division between those having committed certain sins on earth in the flesh and who await the Millennium and Judgment Day as we all do [posts explaining further soon].  The story of Lazarus and the rich man relay this to us nicely:  Luke 16:19-31

None of this is reincarnation.  We do not live in these flesh bodies multiple times....just once in the flesh for the reasons given:  Why The 2nd Earth Age?
 

Check Out Changes to Post....

Have made some edits to yesterday's post on Why The 2nd Earth Age? so be sure to check them out ;-)

In The Beginning.....God's Plan: Why The 2nd Earth Age?

So why are we in these flesh bodies in this 2nd earth age anyway?  Well, let's look at it like this....God is our Heavenly Father (our Creator) and we are His children (and creation).  He had a choice to make when Satan deceived a 1/3 of His children.  He could have destroyed that 1/3-2/3 of His children, or He could give them a second chance (as it were) to choose Him.  As a parent myself, I have to tell you that I completely understand this impossible choice.  What parent would ever choose to destroy a child, ever?  I say 1/3-2/3 because a 1/3 outright chose Satan, but another 1/3 were on the fence so to speak.  Only a solid 1/3 of God's children stood by Him [post later on this trusted 1/3].  The other side of this impossible choice is that God (like anyone) wants true love and loyalty.  He does not want fake or forced admiration.  He wants reverence not fear [post on the mistransliterations of this later].  The only fair way for His children to choose God or Satan was for Him to provide them an opportunity to exist without foreknowledge of that first earth age....and hence this 2nd earth age where all souls (minus Satan) from that 1st earth age are to be born of woman in the flesh without such knowledge of any of the events that took place.  We are here to make a choice between God or Satan, good or evil, a once and for all choice.  So there you have it God chose to destroy that 1st earth age instead of destroying any of His children.

Reference Also:  Became Void & Without Form / Became Void & Without Form PART 2 / Satan's Overthrow

Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. 

Satan is that dragon and the stars are God's children. 

Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations."

John 3:3-13 Jesus answered and said unto him, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."  Nicodemus saith unto Him, "How can a man be born when he is old?  Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?"  Jesus answered, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.  The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."  Nicodemus answered and said unto Him, "How can these things be?"  Jesus answered and said unto him, "Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?  Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.  If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?  And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but He That came down from heaven, even the Son of man Which is in heaven.

Born again is "born from above" (the Greek word is anothen #509 and is "from above") and we are required to come through this flesh age in order to choose and to be judged on whether we can be in the spirit again in eternity with God.  The 7,000 fallen angels bypassed the flesh birth and have consequently been sentenced to eternal death (death of the soul) along with Satan at the end of this 2nd earth age [posts on all of this forthcoming].

I Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 

Corruptible are these flesh bodies and incorruptible are our spiritual bodies...the 2nd death is that of the spiritual bodies, our very souls and that won't be decided on until Judgment Day....[additional info posts to come].

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:


 

In The Beginning.....Satan's Overthrow

God did not create this earth void and without form...He created it to be inhabited. It was then destroyed because of Satan's overthrow (katabole). Ezekiel 28 speaks about Satan himself and what is going to happen to him--it's broken into two sections: 1) Prince of Tyre after his fall / Prince against Messiah; & 2) Before his fall & him being King of Tyrus. Specifically, Ezekiel 28:13-26 is on the earth that was and addressing Satan's fall.  Satan was that great and anointed cherub that covereth the Mercy Seat...the one who loved himself before God and influenced a 1/3 of God's children to follow him rather than God [post to follow on this 1/3].

 from Bullinger's King James Companion Bible

Became Void & Without Form (tohu va-bohu) - PART 2

First, for those that didn't catch the color coding in the first post on In The Beginning....Became Void & Without Form (tohu va-bohu), then know that I was trying to simplify the verses and alert you to the different earth ages....Where appropriate, I used red for the 1st earth age, green for the 2nd earth age, and blue for the 3rd earth age. 

So a little more on tohu va-bohu:

In Genesis 1:1 it says that "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."  PERIOD  Let's just go with God not creating a vast void mess and that millions of years ago God created a beautiful and wonderful creation full of His children [post on creation of all souls later] and even dinosaurs.  In Genesis 1:2 that beautiful creation became void and without form.  "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep."  "Was" in this verse is the Hebrew word hayah meaning to exist, i.e., be or become, come to pass (Strong's #1961).  In most places the word "was" is correctly transliterated "became" hayah) such as in Genesis 2:7.  In both of these verses, it is the same Hebrew word "hayah" just in one place it was transliterated incorrectly "was" and in the other correctly "became".  The second use of "was" in Genesis 1:2 per Bullinger "is in italic type {in the Bullinger KJV Companion Bible} because there is no verb "to be" in Hebrew (see Appendix 7 of the Bullinger KJV Companion Bible).

"Without" in Genesis 1:2 is the Hebrew word tohuw (or tohu) meaning to lie waste, void (Strong's #8414).  Notice the difference in this word versus other uses of "without" in Genesis (such as that of Strong's #2351 chuwts / ehuts meaning to sever, separate)....It's helpful to be able to take these words back to the original Hebrew (and Greek in the New Testament) so as to know the intended meaning as there are some instances where they were mistransliterated from the original Manuscripts making the true meaning hidden unless you search it out to know them!  "Form" in Genesis 1:2 is this same Hebrew word tohuw (Strong's #8414) and "void" is the Hebrew word bohuw (or bohu) meaning emptiness, void.

So if we put the correct Hebrew transliterations in Genesis 1:2 it reads:  And the earth became waste, and void; and darkness to be upon the face of the deep. 

In Jeremiah 4:23 the words "without form, and void" are the very same Hebrew words dissected above from Genesis 1:2.....The earth that then was became void and without form.

Isaiah 45:18-19 For thus saith the Lord That created the heavens; God Himself That formed the earth and made it; He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited:  "I am the Lord; and there is none else.  I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, 'Seek ye Me in vain:' I the Lord speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.

God did not create the earth void and without form....He created it to be inhabited and it became void and without form.  There is evidence all around of the age of this earth from the 1st earth age to present.  This earth is millions of years old, but this earth age (this 2nd earth age) is only thousands of years old.  Praise be to God as Science has no argument with the True Word of God!